What are your thoughts about these? I know there was LLM Assistance but we waited so long for a Replacement for EXWM in Wayland and now with a little help from LLMs and with plausible ideas (like taking bits of Niris Code) we get them. Somebody else seems to found a way with LLMs to get a better Display Engine. We are fighting these but one day that would be the start of something mature. EWM seems to work already and Neomacs also has something going. I know a lot of people dont like that Claude is everywhere but we are waiting for so long for a modernized core and we failed so many times. And now we really are getting small steps with Results. Is that nothing to be cheering for? I know i would be happier if Remacs or stuff like that would be successfull.
Not happy about the LLM agents involved because of the unsolved legal problems.
Does EWM and Neomacs work together?
It would be great if the move form elisp to guile would also solve the single thread problem.
what do you mean by the legal problems?
i want to try it out. it would be crazy if it would work together. more performant emacs with gpu sideloading and wayland with a seperate thread exwm. would be awesome. if guile would be implemented instead of elisp even more cause we just would have guile for everything
AI work can’t be copy righted AFAIK.
Also what does the license of the training data mean for the generated code?
Currently I will only toy with LLMs and it’s a wash for my use cases. For single agents it’s like having to babysit an apprentice or intern. Colleagues work with multiple agents and report good results but it’s like working with outsourced teams with a faster turn around time.
I tried out neomacs a couple days ago and it did not work well at all on my computer. To me, it seems the largely unguarded use of AI and high velocity of the project thanks to AI with little oversight made the project seem flashy and cool but ultimately have poor quality. I would be worried about making my workflow dependent on a tool that has demonstrated to me that it is fragile and dependent on AI.
This is my first time looking at EWM, and I haven’t used it yet, so take this next part with a grain of salt.
From the EWM readme:
Writing a Wayland compositor from scratch is a staggering amount of work. I wanted to switch from EXWM as soon as possible, so the initial bootstrap was done with Claude, which helped a lot in reverse-engineering the brilliant niri codebase and surgically extracting the pieces relevant to EWM. Inherently, this means the codebase still needs validation and cleanup, which is the current priority
The approach to AI between EWM and Neomacs seems fundamentally different. The commit history on EWM and this message make it seem as though the author is very aware that vibe-coded/AI dependent projects are inherently prone to bugs that are hard to solve due to there being nobody who actually knows the codebase, and I respect them for making it their chief priority to clean up the poor quality work left behind by claude. This understanding and desire for quality makes EWM seem significantly more hopeful to me than Neomacs.