# Which minipc for a good Guix experience?

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**Category:** Guix\
**Created:** [March 24, 2024, 4:26pm UTC](https://forum.systemcrafters.net/t/which-minipc-for-a-good-guix-experience/506 "2024-03-24T16:26:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![jlb6907](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ea5d25/32.png) [@jlb6907](https://forum.systemcrafters.net/u/jlb6907)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2024, 4:26pm UTC](https://forum.systemcrafters.net/t/which-minipc-for-a-good-guix-experience/506/1 "2024-03-24T16:26:45Z")

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Hi,

I want to learn Guix and Scheme, but first I want to buy a minipc dedicated to this use.

Which minipc is good for a good Guix experience ? AMD or Intel ? Which GPU ?

Thanks a lot.

JL

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**Author:** ![dgr](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.systemcrafters.net/dgr/32/394_2.png) [@dgr](https://forum.systemcrafters.net/u/dgr)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2024, 11:55pm UTC](https://forum.systemcrafters.net/t/which-minipc-for-a-good-guix-experience/506/2 "2024-03-24T23:55:39Z")

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I got a second hand ThinkPad x280 but it’s not perfects as I need nonguix for the firmware of the WLAN and Bluetooth module.  
I still like it as it’s very mobile and I can learn some Guix during my lunch breaks in any little corner or when ever I find a bit of time.

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**Author:** ![jlb6907](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ea5d25/32.png) [@jlb6907](https://forum.systemcrafters.net/u/jlb6907)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2024, 5:43pm UTC](https://forum.systemcrafters.net/t/which-minipc-for-a-good-guix-experience/506/3 "2024-03-25T17:43:54Z")

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Thanks for your reply.

Perhaps [frame.work](https://community.frame.work/t/tracking-gnu-guix-system-on-the-framework/22459) is a good option for me.

Another link : [https://frame.work/](https://frame.work/)

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**Author:** ![daviwil](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.systemcrafters.net/daviwil/32/1_2.png) [@daviwil](https://forum.systemcrafters.net/u/daviwil)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2024, 7:39pm UTC](https://forum.systemcrafters.net/t/which-minipc-for-a-good-guix-experience/506/4 "2024-03-25T19:39:45Z")

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Framework devices look awesome, I wish they shipped to Greece.

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**Author:** ![sls](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.systemcrafters.net/sls/32/837_2.png) [@sls](https://forum.systemcrafters.net/u/sls)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2024, 5:25am UTC](https://forum.systemcrafters.net/t/which-minipc-for-a-good-guix-experience/506/5 "2024-03-26T05:25:21Z")

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Framework is good.

Even more focused on open hardware is MNT Reform.  
[https://mntre.com/](https://mntre.com/)

Also makes you look like the hackiest hacker of them all 😛  
 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/systemcrafters/original/1X/e4ddedfeece63c10d2045b904c4d0f0c6629e057.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![daviwil](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.systemcrafters.net/daviwil/32/1_2.png) [@daviwil](https://forum.systemcrafters.net/u/daviwil)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2024, 8:10am UTC](https://forum.systemcrafters.net/t/which-minipc-for-a-good-guix-experience/506/6 "2024-03-26T08:10:04Z")

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I am constantly trying to decide whether I want to buy a Pocket Reform 🙂

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**Author:** ![sls](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.systemcrafters.net/sls/32/837_2.png) [@sls](https://forum.systemcrafters.net/u/sls)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2024, 7:02am UTC](https://forum.systemcrafters.net/t/which-minipc-for-a-good-guix-experience/506/7 "2024-03-27T07:02:34Z")

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Do you prefer the Pocket Reform over the regular one?

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**Author:** ![daviwil](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.systemcrafters.net/daviwil/32/1_2.png) [@daviwil](https://forum.systemcrafters.net/u/daviwil)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2024, 7:16am UTC](https://forum.systemcrafters.net/t/which-minipc-for-a-good-guix-experience/506/8 "2024-03-27T07:16:38Z")

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The full sized Reform is really bulky and I already have a normal sized laptop (I’d buy a Framework for that purpose anyway). However, a 7" mini computer has some interesting use cases for writing and hacking on the go!

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**Author:** ![theesm](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.systemcrafters.net/theesm/32/175_2.png) [@theesm](https://forum.systemcrafters.net/u/theesm)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2024, 10:05am UTC](https://forum.systemcrafters.net/t/which-minipc-for-a-good-guix-experience/506/9 "2024-03-27T10:05:37Z")

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I pre-ordered a pocket reform a few months ago, even though it will require some work to get Guix System up and running on it (I already partially prepared a custom kernel package with patches/configs from [linux · main · Reform / reform-debian-packages · GitLab](https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-debian-packages/-/tree/main/linux), though I’ll only be able to answer if it works as soon as I got my hands on the actual hardware); form-factor wise it solves my issue of not wanting to carry a bigger laptop all time and not wanting to type on my smartphone instead quite well & I’m looking forward to using it.

As for the original question:

> I want to learn Guix and Scheme, but first I want to buy a minipc dedicated to this use.

If nonguix for firmware is an option, I highly recommend getting a more recent Optiplex Micro or ThinkCentre Tiny for that cause. They’re small, cheap and fun to use as a computer (I use an optiplex micro myself right now while typing this).

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**Author:** ![daviwil](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.systemcrafters.net/daviwil/32/1_2.png) [@daviwil](https://forum.systemcrafters.net/u/daviwil)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2024, 7:27pm UTC](https://forum.systemcrafters.net/t/which-minipc-for-a-good-guix-experience/506/10 "2024-03-27T19:27:41Z")

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> [@theesm](#):
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> I pre-ordered a pocket reform a few months ago

Awesome! Looking forward to hearing your impressions when you get it. Any indication of how long it is until you receive yours?

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**Author:** ![dgr](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.systemcrafters.net/dgr/32/394_2.png) [@dgr](https://forum.systemcrafters.net/u/dgr)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2024, 8:35pm UTC](https://forum.systemcrafters.net/t/which-minipc-for-a-good-guix-experience/506/11 "2024-03-27T20:35:58Z")

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The fancy small form factor Ethernet port, on the Pocket Reform, piqued my interest.

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**Author:** ![theesm](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.systemcrafters.net/theesm/32/175_2.png) [@theesm](https://forum.systemcrafters.net/u/theesm)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2024, 10:25pm UTC](https://forum.systemcrafters.net/t/which-minipc-for-a-good-guix-experience/506/12 "2024-03-27T22:25:41Z")

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> Any indication of how long it is until you receive yours?

Yes, they should start fulfilling orders soon-ish, as in end of march/beginning of april, according to [MNT Pocket Reform - Getting Pocket Reform Ready to Ship](https://www.crowdsupply.com/mnt/pocket-reform/updates/getting-pocket-reform-ready-to-ship) and have been pretty transparent about delays. I’ll definitely let you folks know what my first impressions are as soon as it arrives (and what I did to bring up guix system on it as well as share my custom packages as well as a basic image declaration for the pocket reform).
